Comments on: Rifle and Pistol Cleaning – Phil’s way

By: George Robinson

George Robinson — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:39:34 +0000

I use a 50 – 50 mix of Shooters Choice and Kroil in my barrels. A good stiff bronze-phospher brush, wet patching, as well as dry patching. I try to scrub out as much of the copper as I can, and then I wet the bore with a patch soaked in Kroil, lightly dry it with a clean patch and fire off my next round.

I use a bore guide and a Dewey stainless steel one-piece rod.

I never shoot a dry bore. The Kroil works its way into the most finite places and provides good lubrication. I have seen cans of Kroil at bench rest matches all over the country. How one cleans and protects their bore is to them, and I have never run acrossed a fellow shooter who does it the same way as someone else.

By: TominCA

TominCA — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:35:57 +0000

I don’t use the same cleaning solutions – but I use similar ones – I finally gave up on the nylon brush. It just was not getting the carbon residue out. I went back to bronze with solvent and then follow up with a non-ammonia copper remover or a few hours with wipe-out without brushing.

By: JEFF STOCK

JEFF STOCK — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:22:26 +0000

I agree with the nylon brush system. I have 3 stainless barrels from Shilen, (6 X 45, 6 BR, & .223 A.I.) mounted on Savage Target Actions (Right Bolt, Left Port) I follow their cleaning procedures. I soak my nylon brush with Montana X-Treme 50 B.M.G. (my choice of solvent) & give the bore 10 complete “cycles”. I then clean the nylon brush, and resoak the nylon brush and make another 10 “cycles”. I can feel the difference in resistance with that second soaked brush “cycle”. I then run 4-6 soaked patchs thru the bore, followed by 5-8 dry patchs. I’m done with the barrel cleaning procedure.
My 6 X 45 has produced a group 0.094″ (measured with a Sinclair Group Measuring Attachment to my digital dial caliper) over bullet diameter on our private 100 yard range, equipped with a “Shooting Shack”, which allows us to shoot all year round. I don’t believe in getting “all” the copper out of the barrel, because the first thing you do before shooting for “group”, is to foul the barrel which is nothing more then “recoating” the barrel with copper in the areas of that barrel that will take some. We all have our own “system” for cleaning barrels. I use to clean with the “soak overnight” & clean until I had no copper on the patchs system, but in my humble opinion, that is not necessary, & does nothing for shooting better groups.
When you read the directions on the back of the Montana X-Treme 50 B.M.G., they tell you to soak a “nylon brush”. Obviously if any solvent is strong enough to take out the copper fouling, it is strong enough to eat your brush also. Jeff.

By: Claudio Ascari - ITALY

Claudio Ascari - ITALY — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:59:42 +0000

Boretech Eliminator and bronze brush together are not correct.
I prefer to use a nylon brush (maybe of a higher dimeter as the barrel diameter, in order to increase the scratch of the copper and carbon from the barrel).

If you want to use bronze brush after the use of wet patches with Boretech Eliminator, it’s mandatory (in my opinion) to:
1) dry first the barrel with some dry patches
2) use after some dry compressed air into the barrel for some time to be sure that all Boretech Eliminator is out
3) now the use of broze brush coul be possible without brush dissolving.

Thanks.

Claudio

By: Arthur Morgan

Arthur Morgan — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:22:26 +0000

You wet brush with a bronze brush and Bore Tech Eliminator? Doesn’t Bore-Tech specify a nylon brush? Won’t the Eliminator start dissolving a bronze brush rapidly enough that some of the blue you pick up is from dissolving brush?
Thanks!
Art

By: Donn Kraemer

Donn Kraemer — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:01:06 +0000

What is your cleaning recommendations for AR-style .223 police rifles?

By: Octo

Octo — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:46:30 +0000

IMHO , bronze brush + Eliminator = false reading. A tight, hard, nylon brush works well to produce an emulsion with that product. For the same reason, I have all jags chrome plated.
I shoot Bench Rest.
Best regards.